Xfce Panel Disappears

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http://forums.fedoraforum.org – I have searched for an answer to this both here and with Google but the only things I find are quite old, for Xfce 4.4 and older. I have F11_x64 with KDE and Xfce installed and up to date. While using Xfce I shut the system down and it seemed to hang but finally shutdown. The next time I started it the panel was missing. The Panel config in Settings wouldn't run either. The rest of the system seemed to be OK. I could select apps from the right click menu and they would run. I could start xfce4-panel from ALT-F2 and everything was normal. The old threads suggest this is due to Session Saving not working and recommended disabling it. This seems to fit with the hanging during shutdown. Now I need to run xfce4-panel every time I start (or add it to Autostart). My question is can I fix this any other way or is this my best option? (HowTos)