Root help

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http://forum.xda-developers.com – Had Evo 4g rooted so im not a rook, but LTE is new to me. So just wanted some answers before I go ahead with rooting process. I've seen threads posting you need "root" before going s-off, but I dont know if these are dated now. Do I need to gain root before using LazyPanda's S-off shown here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1737123 Or can I run this process from a stock phone. If Im correct, gaining s-off will root and the 1st part of gaining root s-on would be redundant. Can someone provide some help, again Im new to phone and dont know if these processes (HowTos)