General When is Verizon getting Jelly Bean?! Official thread if you're PISSED OFF!

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http://androidforums.com – Saw a leak that a final build was made in October. Posted on their Facebook and they said "if". What does "if" mean? Like we won't get jelly bean? Come on! Anyone heard anything? Also heard Google is trying to pair up with Dish to have their own wireless carrier because they are tired of US carriers holding back on their updates. Post your thoughts! (General)