FC17 server is not accepting connections from ssh and other

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http://forums.fedoraforum.org – Hello i run Fedora 17 x86 on my machine I have also other servers like Centos and Fedora 16 and imacs I want to have a normal functioning network From my other fedora 16 server or my Mac i get this error while the openssh is running and is not firewalled, iptables is off and flushed (iptables -Z -F ) this happens all the time after retrying 10 or 20 times (random) i can connect. ssh [email protected] ssh: connect to host port 22: Connection refused (service is running) tcp 0 0* LISTEN 0 15657 8 (HowTos)