Can't connect to IMAP mail server with Thunderbird and KMail

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http://forums.opensuse.org – HI I have a strange problem. My e-mail servers is IMAP and have TLS/SSL. I am sure that i entered right informations (servername, port, type, pw...). But i connect to my outgoing mail server but then login failed, on both Thunderbrd 3 and KMail that come with openSuSE 11.2. And now i tried one POP server with Thunderbir 3, and it fails to download my messages from server too. What could be wrong? (Distributions)