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Arch linux without Systemd

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https://bbs.archlinux.org – i've looked a bit into replacing systemd, and it seems to me there are 3 things that could/need to be replaced :- the init system - udev- logindthere are several alternative init systems around, and also udev has been forked a few times.replacing logind could be done by compiling polkit with specifc ./configure options to use alternative methods for authenticating.consolekit is one of those alternatives, unix groups are another.In short, archlinux without systemd seems doable. Lone_Wolf https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=4504 2012-11-23T12:16:41Z (HowTos)

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hi guys,i got it: https://www.archlinux.org/news/consolek … by-logind/my system worked in a initscripts/systemd mix. i already configured the DAEMONS...etc.

Thanks for your time, Wonderwoofy & brain0. Ultimately I think I was confused and misled by the news item's title using the name 'logind' instead of 'systemd-logind' or just 'systemd'. I thought I was dealing with something that was distinct from, yet somewhat dependent on, systemd.

Have you run pacman -Syu and replaced udev with the new systemd-tools - also it may be wise after doing that to run mkinitcpio -p linux and then grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfgSee the following announcement:http://www.archlinux.org/news/systemd-t … aces-udev/

DarkCerberus https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=55618

2012-08-20T10:28:56Z

Fork ArchLinux with runit-init 37 weeks 12 hours ago

Banton wrote:San2ban wrote:AllanWhat I meant is, it had become PID1. When I issued init 0, init 6 commandsit never worked. It said something about systmctl not recognizing something..So... I  imagined it had replaced itself.I re-installed runit-run, and init 0, init 6 started workingThat's just not possible, Archlinux only boots systemd if you tell it to.Not really.

nierro wrote:@tomegun, is there a possibility that your polkit with systemd support will hit some repo?I committed it to SVN, but it depends on the maintainer (JGC), and on whether or not any problems crop up with it.

tomegun https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=37471

2012-08-10T23:58:09Z

Looks like something was not setup in java correctly during your install.Possibly the swt library supplied by LPXexpresso is not compabile with arch.Have you tried using swt from extra repo instead of the included one ?

Lone_Wolf https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=4504

2013-01-23T12:19:44Z

If you manage to boot into initscripts by removing init= from the kernel commandline, then I can't imagine what might be wrong. Maybe you upgraded some other software at the same time as testing out systemd? The kernel?Try increasing the debug output of udev in /etc/udev/udev.conf.

tomegun https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=37471

2012-08-26T13:53:52Z

sounds like you may have the same problem as described here : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156964

Lone_Wolf https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=4504

2013-02-23T16:01:29Z

Do you have any udev rules in /usr/lib/udev/rules.d? If so, one of them is probably incorrectly calling /usr/lib/udev/socket.

Gcool https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=51415

2012-07-07T07:42:15Z